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Post by volstopfan14 Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:51 pm

I don't know how in depth you are planning to go with the coaches luv, but this is a GREAT list of accurate numbers for the coaches run/pass balance on offense. This was put together using real life stats by bhbdawg. Just a quick note, you need to change the HC as well as the OC. Only the OC will not work.

First off, let me say this is my first post after reading for a while. You guys do a nice job with the rosters each year, and as much as I'm impressed with the work put in, I'm even more impressed with the way you manage to work cohesively with one another. Well done.

How much care goes into deciding a coach's run/pass balance? How much does it affect gameplay?

If you're going to use actual game-data, I would imagine their play selection on 1st down would be the most reliable. After all, if a team is good on 1st down, they'll be running more often on 3rd, leading to more runs overall. 1st down is a better indicator of a team's true offensive preferences.

As food for thought, here are SEC #'s for the current lineup, using each coordinator's most recent season (although 3 year averages would probably work better) (I had no data for Vandy's OC so I used Franklin's tendencies from Maryland, and Spurrier is his own OC so I listed him here):

SEC:
Jim McElwain, Alabama: 41% pass
Garrick McGee, Arkansas: 51% pass
Gus Malzahn, Auburn: 23% pass
Charlie Weis, Florida: 48% pass
Mike Bobo, Georgia: 43% pass
Randy Sanders, Kentucky: 43% pass
Steve Kragthorpe, LSU: 39% pass
Les Koenning, Mississippi St: 26% pass
David Lee, Ole Miss: 28% pass
Steve Spurrier Jr, South Carolina (also Steve Spurrier): 36% pass
Jim Cheney, Tennessee: 44% pass
John Donovan, Vanderbilt (also James Franklin): 38% pass

Big Ten:
Jim Bollman, Ohio St - 34% pass
Paul Chryst, Wisconsin - 28% pass
Galen Hall, Penn St - 44% pass
Paul Petrino, Illinois - 22% pass
Gary Nord, Purdue - 37% pass
Kevin Wilson, Indiana - 48% pass
Tim Beck, Nebraska - 19% pass
Dan Roushar, Michigan St - 36% pass
Ken O'Keefe, Iowa - 38% pass
Mike McCall, Northwestern - 38% pass
Al Borges, Michigan - 38% pass
Matt Limegrover - Minnesota - 27% pass

Big XII:
Jay Norvell, Oklahoma - 48% pass
Tom Rossley, Texas A&M (also Mike Sherman) - 43% pass
Bryan Harsin, Texas - 47% pass
Todd Monken*, Oklahoma St - 40% pass
David Yost, Missouri - 46% pass
Dana Dimel, Kansas St - 28% pass
Neal Brown, Texas Tech - 56% pass
Randy Clements, Baylor (also Art Briles) - 46% pass
Tom Herman, Iowa St - 38% pass
Chuck Long, Kansas - 37% pass

ACC
James Coley, FSU - 41% pass
Chad Morris, Clemson - 34% pass
Dana Bible, NC St - 50% pass
Kevin Rogers, Boston College - 28% pass
Gary Crowton, Maryland - 32% pass
Steed Lobotzke, Wake Forest - 37% pass
Bryan Stinespring, Virginia Tech - 30% pass
Jedd Fisch, Miami - 43% pass
John Shoop, UNC - 41% pass
Brian Bohannon, Georgia Tech (also Paul Johnson)- 17% pass
Bill Lazor, Virginia - 43% pass
Kurt Roper, Duke - 44% pass

Pac-12
Mark Helfrich, Oregon - 38% pass
Pep Hamilton, Stanford - 33% pass
Danny Langsdorf, Oregon St (also Mike Riley) - 35% pass
Doug Nussmeier, Washington - 42% pass
Jim Michalczik, California - 43% pass
Todd Sturdy, Washington St - 41% pass
Kennedy Pola, USC - 47% pass
Noel Mazzone, Arizona St - 43% pass
Mike Johnson, UCLA - n/a
Norm Chow, Utah - 36% pass
Seth Littrell, Arizona - 47% pass
Eric Bieniemy, Colorado - n/a

Big East

Calvin Magee, Pittsburgh - 31% pass
Todd Fitch, USF - 36% pass
Dana Holgorsen, West Virginia - 50% pass
Mike Bajakian, Cincinnati - 46% pass
George DeLeone, Connecticut - 34% pass
Frank Cignetti, Rutgers - 36% pass
Mike Sanford, Louisville - 35% pass
Nathaniel Hackett, Syracuse - 38% pass

MWC
Brent Pease, Boise State - 42% pass
Justin Fuente, TCU - 30% pass
Blane Morgan, Air Force - 17% pass
Pat Meyer, Colorado State (also Steve Fairchild) - 43% pass
Andy Ludwig, San Diego St - 38% pass
Gregg Brandon, Wyoming - 39% pass
David Reaves, New Mexico - 38% pass
Rob Phenicie, UNLV - 35% pass

C-USA
Jason Phillips, Houston - 46% pass
Greg Peterson, Tulsa - 38% pass
Dan Morrison, SMU (also June Jones) - 54% pass
John Reagan, Rice - 30% pass
Dan Dodd, Tulane - 44% pass
Aaron Price, UTEP - 44% pass
Blake Anderson, Southern Miss - 40% pass
Charlie Taaffe, UCF - 26% pass
Lincoln Riley, East Carolina - 57% pass
Kim Helton, UAB - 46% pass
Bill Legg, Marshall - 50% pass
Eric Price, Memphis - 39% pass

WAC
Cameron Norcross, Nevada (also Chris Ault) - 27% pass
Jeff Grady, Fresno State - 39% pass
Nick Rolovich, Hawaii - 65% pass
Tony Franklin, Louisiana Tech - 39% pass
Steve Axman, Idaho - 52% pass
John DeFelippo, San Jose St - 48% pass
Dave Baldwin, Utah State - 33% pass
Doug Martin, New Mexico St - 44% pass

Independent
Charley Molnar, Notre Dame - 48% pass
Brandon Doman, BYU - 36% pass
Ivin Jasper, Navy - 12% pass
Ian Shields, Army - 15% pass

MAC
Matt Campbell, Toledo - 31% pass
Ryan Cubit, Western Michigan (also Bill Cubit) - 52% pass
Matt Canada, Northern Illinois - 47% pass
Mike Cummings, Central Michigan - 45% pass
Rich Skrosky, Ball State - n/a
Ken Karcher, Eastern Michigan - 29% pass
Tim Albin, Ohio - 29% pass
Scot Loeffler, Temple (also Steve Addazio) - 35% pass
John Klacik, Miami, OH (also Don Treadwell) - 36% pass
Brian Rock, Kent State - 37% pass
Alex Wood, Buffalo - 49% pass
Warren Ruggiero, Bowling Green - 52% pass
John Latina, Akron - 39% pass

Sun Belt
Kenny Edenfield, Troy - 46% pass
Scott Satterfield, FIU - 30% pass
Steve Farmer, ULM - 38% pass
Willie Simmons, Middle Tennessee - 33% pass
Grant Heard, Arkansas State (also Hugh Freeze) - 45% pass
Mike Canales, North Texas - 29% pass
Darryl Jackson, Florida Atlantic - 38% pass
Zach Azzanni, WKU - 31% pass
Jay Johnson, Louisiana - 37% pass

NOTE: When you are editing the Run Offense/Pass Offense button, you are moving the slider TOWARD whichever you're wanting to do more of. An easier way of saying this is that the white part of the slider represents pass %. For example, the default setting has Georgia Tech at 25% pass (because the slider is moved far away from the pass side).

EA's terminology here is confusing, but if you're implementing my sliders, my #'s should be represented by the WHITE bar, not the GREY...

That should settle any future confusion.

Also, you should edit all HC's to match the OC's, IMO...

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Post by luvtotha9s Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:04 pm

Wow....just reading this....looks like EA's confusing run pass slider fooled me...The way I made it...teams like Gtech, Navy, Army will pass way more....It has been fixed...anyone who has version 4, Switch it to the opposite. I would suggest making these changes.
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Post by benfro6 Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:21 pm

Don't forget to change Air Force as well. Thanks for the great information, volstopfan.

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Post by luvtotha9s Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:24 pm

benfro6 wrote:Don't forget to change Air Force as well. Thanks for the great information, volstopfan.
Yes...Air Force,Kansas State, Texas Tech, ECU, Eastern Michigan, Miami OH, and Arizona as well
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Post by BigPlay8485 Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:31 pm

Lets make it easier, do we move the bar to the right or left for these new sliders???

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Post by luvtotha9s Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:55 pm

Left if you want more run, right if you want more pass...The way EA has implemented it is way confusing
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Post by litefog Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:51 pm

just wondering luv, are u going to make another version with these changes anytime soon?

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Post by luvtotha9s Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:51 pm

Yes...One is in the works...Version 4.1
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